The Rogue Researcher’s Search for Mu.

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As we search we find there is more to Mu than meets the eye. I try to dig into the reasons for suppression and the dismantling of the once Great Civilization that inhabited Mu.
We have enough evidence on the table to prove Mu existed and very well could have been the name of the planet in that very ancient beginnings of the Man Kinds.
Kind Regards, The Rogue Researcher

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Mu and the Worldwide Flood

Mu and the Worldwide Flood
Michael Jaye Ph.D

Please see the numbered items, below. Item 1 is an email that I recently shared with several prominent geologists regarding the worldwide flood.  Item 2 features two of Churchward’s paintings that depict the destruction of Mu; Item 3 is an annotated Google Earth map of the Monterey Canyon region off the coast of California; and Item 4 discusses Sedgwick’s recantation of his belief in a biblical flood, the scientific method, and geologists’ failure to reject a false paradigm in the presence of new data.

Shortly after I moved to the Monterey, CA, area I came upon the relatively new Google Map (satellite view) data that reveal submerged, former river systems. Anyone but a geologist would know that this drainage system could only have been created by subaerial processes.  Yet geologists believe that they were, and such bad science must be corrected: geologists are fitting the creation of these structures into their ‘no flood, ever’ paradigm (discussed in Item 1).  Such explanations illustrate the practice of fitting observations to theory, which is anti-science; turbidity flows as the creation mechanism represent an ad hoc speculation crafted to eliminate apparent conflict with the prevailing paradigm.  Not just that, but the explanations also exemplify the confusion of cause and effect – whatever turbidity flows that have been observed in/near these structures are post-submersion consequences and certainly not their creation mechanism.  To consider that these submerged drainage systems were carved by subsurface processes finds its historical equivalent in the idea that all celestial bodies orbit Earth.

To resolve matters I identify the cosmic impact that delivered the worldwide flood waters.  While forever changing the planet, the vast and newly introduced waters also buried Mu and Atlantis. Remnants from each of these civilizations will eventually be discovered far beneath the ocean’s surface in places that have thus far been beyond our consideration.

Although mentioned in Item 1, I wish to emphasize this important consequence:  we humans are ill-adapted for the post-flood ecosystem that we encounter.  The planet for which we are adapted no longer exists, and our survival necessitates exploiting and abusing Earth’s resources for warmth, shelter, and food. From an archaeological and anthropological perspective, humans did not occupy presently exposed landscapes (except in some locations at tropical latitudes) prior to the worldwide flood because, at more than two miles above the former sea level, the lands we occupy now would have been too cold.

For those interested, I gave this presentation, “Resolving the Problem of Atlantis,” to the Explorers Club in NYC this past April.

I hope that all this will help you and others to put into proper context COL James Churchward’s findings: Mu existed, and it was lost in the worldwide flood.

Michael Jaye, PhD
1. Recently sent email:

Dear Profs _________,

As you are probably aware, for nearly 200 years geologists have accepted that the Earth has had all its water since nearly its beginning. This paradigm finds its origin in the early decades of the 1800s when Buckland, Sedgwick, Conybeare, Lyell, etc., began the process of determining whether or not the whole of the Earth suffered a deluge.  It became apparent to all that diluvial gravels belonged to multiple, distinct events, and because there was not a common event in the record then there could not have been a worldwide flood (e.g. Sedgwick’s recantation, 1831).  But this conclusion and its ensuing paradigm precluded the possibility that now-submerged landscapes might have been inundated by some unknown event.  From the evidence the precise conclusion should have been: presently exposed landscapes were not inundated by a presumed worldwide flood.  This is wholly different from claiming that there was never a worldwide flood.  Yet “no global flood, ever” became the accepted paradigm that persists to this day, and it has far-reaching implications.

Relatively new data in the form of Google Earth and Google Maps (satellite view) expose the erroneous paradigm.  The map data reveal the remnants of a massive cosmic impact in what is now the Southern Ocean. (Location of impact is corroborated by this article.)  The impacting object had a dense, solid core that was surrounded by a fragile outer layer.  Assumed to have formed in the Oort Cloud, this outer layer would be consistent with known comet composition – predominantly ice – and upon melting it would deliver more than 3 km of water to former oceans and seas.  This impact created the YD nanodiamond layer and associated environmental effects placing the event 13kybp.  The flood waters submerged and preserved Monterey Canyon and similar drainage systems found throughout the planet.  Humans commemorate the event in ubiquitous oral traditions: there was a catastrophic, worldwide flood.

Here are three Google Maps views of the impact site.  It is in the Southern Ocean southeast of South Africa and nearly due south of Madagascar.  Center impact is vic 56.83S, 53.75E.

impact perspectives

These are identical perspectives of the impact site available to everyone with a computer and Google Earth.  The upper is the standard view with superimposed diameter measuring 2500 km; the middle is a bathymetry map depicting raised regions of deposits borne by the impacting object – the circle identifies the location of the nucleus remnants (RGB color scale corresponds to highest to lowest elevations); the lower view is a magnetic anomaly map (RGB scale corresponds with most to least intense susceptibilities).  Magnetic anomalies extend 1500 km to the northeast through the impact crescent’s gap – impact velocities and associated forces projected ice and other object-borne materials through the crescent gap.  We note that the maps constitute data that had not been available to geologists or other scientists until recently. In the Oort Cloud where this object formed, gravitational accelerations induced by the solid, inner core were less than 1% of Earth’s.  Aggregations forming the outer water-ice and debris shell made it more massive than the core, yet accelerations created by the combined system were on the order of 2% of Earth’s.  These small accelerations explain why the impacting object was so loosely packed, porous, and fragile, as well as why its impact effects on the Earth are so unimpressive and far less damaging than what might be expected from a similarly sized but solid object.

The object that struck in what is now the Southern Ocean created the nanodiamond layer, it caused the YD climate changes, and it flooded the planet by adding more than 3 km to former ocean depths.

The waters preserved in the bathymetry the many submerged river drainage systems that we can now “see” with Google Earth/Maps.  Here are some examples:

submerged drainages

To anyone but a trained geologist the noticeable, meandering features are submerged river drainage systems.

Yet one of the four is published by geologists as having drainages that were subaerially carved, and it is the one in the upper right (western Med) – Garcia-Castellanos (Nature, 2009) claimed that the Med flooded through the Strait of Gibraltar (their timing is way off, however).  We note that the former drainages in the Med end at a common depth because carving/erosion is a subaerial process that ceases upon contact with a terminal body of water. Like those in the Med, the drainages in the other three examples were also subaerially carved and seeking their terminal bodies of water.  They are preserved because they were quickly submerged by the flood waters.

Here is a schematic from the Nature paper that depicts the waters beginning to enter the Med.  Note the there was a body of water in the Med and that for millions of years the waters drained into it thereby carving the features that are now preserved in the bathymetry and which we can now “see” via Google Earth/Maps.

Med filling thru Strait

Submarine geomorphologists (and other geologists) conjecture that turbidity flows carved these submerged drainages because to them there was never a worldwide flood.  But it is an absolute, physical impossibility for any flow to remain focused and energetic at the depths and distances involved to carve these structures.  Geologists are fitting data to theory, and that is the practice of anti-science, or fantasy.  Also, ascribing the structures’ creation to subsurface flows is the confusion of cause and effect: whatever turbidity flows that have been observed near these structures are consequences of the structures, post submersion, and certainly not their creation mechanism.  To think that subsurface processes carved these features is equivalent to believing that all celestial bodies orbit the Earth.

COL James Churchward’s work (e.g. The Lost Continent of Mu) is discredited because of the “no flood, ever” paradigm.  Nonetheless, here is a map he created roughly 100 years ago based on his travels and research.  Note the location of Mu.

Map of the Lost Continent of Mu by COL James Churchward

And here is a three-color, ArcGIS-produced map (model) of pre-flood Earth (blue = former seas; tan = formerly exposed landscapes; yellow = presently exposed landscapes) created by removing more than 3 km water from Earth’s surface:

Three color ArcGIS produced map of pre flood Earth

Note the formerly exposed region to the west of South America, particularly its western extent, in the GIS-model, and compare it to Churchward’s Mu.

There’s more:  this recent finding  included a human DNA “heat map”:

DNA heat map explained by Mu flood survivors

Explaining the heat map is obvious in the context of the worldwide flood:  peoples inhabiting Mu shared a common ancestry, and descendants of flood survivors in Australia and regional Pacific islands are DNA-linked to descendants of flood survivors in South America.  (By the way, the hypothesis that human migrations to the Americas via some land bridge near the Arctic Circle is wholly invalidated by this map.)

The research vessel Anton Bruun in October 1962 discovered what appear to be human artifacts in the deep abyss.  This is a photo and its corresponding caption from the voyage:

Submerged columns off SA coast - remnants of Mu

From the voyage report:

“Columns under the Sea – or – unusual rock formations off Callao, Peruat a depth of 2000 meters some exceptionally interesting photographs were obtained.  The figure shows two columnar structures projecting from the sediments….  It is tempting to suggest that these represent evidence of submerged man-made structures.  The apparent “inscriptions” on the columns is suggestive as is also their upright condition.  The absence of typical submerged rock exposure is further suggestive that these photos have recorded more than just sedimentary rock exposure.  The possibility certainly exists, even if the probability is low, that these photographs do show evidence of submerged man-made structures….”

The columns are remnants of human activity from Churchward’s lost continent, Mu.

In addition, if you are familiar with Dillehay’s  Monte Verde, then you would know that he conclusively places humans in South America between 12,400 and 12,800 years before present.  Also, the Haida (noted seafarers) have been dated as far back as 13,000 years ago.  Each settlement’s time estimate corresponds with the YD nanodiamond layer creation and the associated climate effects that were caused by the cosmic impact in the Southern Ocean that delivered the worldwide flood.

Humans evolved in the former abyss where, in the absence of more than 3 km water, atmospheric pressures would have increased temperatures – it is why we are furless.  Correspondingly, our furry relatives evolved in landscapes that were more than 3 km above the former sea level – it was much, much cooler up here (prior to the flood), and we encounter them now because we survived into available landscapes.  Most important is this implication: we humans are not properly adapted for the post-flood Earth environment that we encounter.  Hence our problems….

It is only a matter of time until other evidence of human activity is discovered in the deep abyss.  At that time what will geologists do (other than try to discredit the findings)?

But the bottom line is this:  geologists are preventing us from achieving a correct understanding of Earth and human history, and the community of scientists needs to be made aware of geology’s nearly 200-year old, fundamental, paradigmatic “no flood, ever” error.  It will one day be recognized as the most profound error in the history of science.

2. Two of James Churchward’s paintings depicting the destruction of Mu are shown below. Note that a portion of the upper painting’s caption reads, “…Unaccompanied with Ice.” I find that caption to be fascinating. The celestial object that delivered the flood waters was composed mostly of ice, and not all of it would have melted immediately after impact. Because Mu was located relatively close to the impact site, it is very reasonable to consider that the meltwaters would have carried substantial amounts of ice with them as they coursed about. So how did Churchward know this? He was hamstrung by Geology’s “no flood, ever” paradigm (in fact, he postulated that the entire continent of Mu had subsided into the abyss), so he would not have considered that the waters had a frozen, cosmic source, and this piques our curiosity: what prompted him to mention ice? Where would he have found the account? Would it be available today?

Finally, it is worth noting that the lower image shows volcanic activity, another very likely and immediate consequence of the cosmic impact.
Churchward painting 1 unaccompanied with Ice

Churchward painting 2 flooding with volcanic eruption

3. The rapid introduction of such a vast amount of water preserved the Monterey Canyon drainage system.  The figure, below, depicts and annotates a Google Earth map of the region drained by the system, most of it far off shore (it is approximately 120 miles from the Monterey peninsula to the drainage terminus found in the lower left of the figure).  At more than 3 km above the former sea level, what is now California would have been continuously inundated by rains caused by winds uplifted by the nearly vertical and formerly exposed continental margin.  Eventually those rain waters would have been energized by the fall back down the shelf, and this led to the creation of Monterey Canyon; this process explains the many other well-preserved river drainage systems found submerged throughout the planet. (This includes the recently discovered Tamanrasett River that is now covered in the Sahara Desert.  The Tamanrasset drained westward and down Africa’s continental shelf thereby creating Cap Timiris Canyon.)

The confluence region in the Monterey Canyon figure is ambiguous or smeared as a consequence of river borne sediments being deposited into rising ocean waters much like the formation of river deltas.  This accounts for the nature of a U.S. Geological Survey sample core drilled in this confluence region: it is primarily composed of terrigenous sand, and its secondary composition is terrigenous gravel deposits.  Other river-borne materials that were deposited into the rising ocean waters account for the region’s sediment-filled channels.

Monterey Canyon drainage system annotated

4. The Rev. Adam Sedgwick was the president of the Geological Society of London in the early part of the 19th century, and he took part in and presided over the debate regarding whether or not there was ever a worldwide flood. At its essence, the argument against the worldwide flood went like this: because there was no common event found in diluvial records, then there never could have been a worldwide flood. But this conclusion is incorrect; instead, it should have been: presently exposed landscapes were not inundated by a presumed worldwide flood. This is the only conclusion that could have been drawn from the evidence, and it is precise, correct, and completely different from what the geologists determined.

But the erroneous conclusion prevailed, and one might rightly argue that Sedgwick’s recantation played an important factor in propagating the error. Part of his recantation goes like this:

"…the vast masses of diluvial graveldo not belong to one violent and transitory period.  It was indeed a most unwarranted conclusion when we assumed the contemporaneity of all the superficial gravel on the earth….  Having been myself a believer [in a worldwide flood], and, to the best of my power, a propagator of what I now regard as a philosophic heresy … I think it right thus publicly to read my recantation."

Sedgwick’s recantation came at the end of his tenure as society president, and, because of his stature not only as the president but also as a preacher, the incorrect conclusion became a paradigm that persists to this day.

However, somewhat recent discoveries regarding the distribution of certain species of flora and fauna cannot be explained under the mistaken paradigm (see Part II of Cataclysm! by DS Allan and JB Delair). Then the map data reveal other facts and observations that also cannot be explained (at least not rationally). In addition, this new map data reveal the cosmic impact that could not have been known until recently. Coupled with our understanding of comet composition (e.g. NASA’s Deep Impact mission to comet Tempel 1), we can now couple historical accounts of a worldwide flood with its evidence.

Unfortunately, geologists refuse to recognize the new data and its implications. Imagine being an editor or reviewer at some prestigious journal, someone with a long and lettered history among his/her profession, and being confronted with evidence that overturns a foundational belief in his/her field…. They should know that the scientific method calls for discarding their theories given the introduction of data that render it incommensurate and obsolete. And the “no flood, ever” paradigm is obsolete. There was a worldwide flood, and its cosmic source added more than 3km water to the Earth ecosystem 13kybp.

It forever changed the planet.

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In Colonel Churchward’s book The Lost Continent of MU something that stood out to me was The Cosmogonic Diagram. It stood out as it fit so well as a cypher for the work I was already engaged in. I believe the Cosmogonic Diagram to be a rendition of the Cypher above which is formed in the Flower Of Life Graph. The Flower Of Life Pattern is an Ancient Pattern found all over the World. And as Colonel Churchward claims that the Nacaal’s and the Naga’s were the people that established Colonies Worldwide , it seems that the Most Important Pictographs and Cyphers would come from and therefor be able to be rendered in this pattern.
Below are the Pattern’s I Discovered thru Reverse Engineering of what is today the Hebrew Letters and were formerly Pictographs.
All the Pictographs can be rendered as 4 dashes wide and start and stop at the same elevation to form what would today be known as Cursive Writing.
I call this the Saturn Pattern and first one is the Numbered Version.
This Version is the Pictograph’s Associated with the Hebrew Letters.
This Version is Rendered by Combining 2 Pictographs that Oppose Each Other from the Center.
Take notice in Numbered Version that Opposing Numbers from the Center when added together have the Sum of 23 which is the Center Sum.
Colonel Churchward mentioned a couple words that are in this Combined Pictograph Version.
The K-L which he gives the meaning as To Open.
The K-L are the Pictographs 2 and 21 Combined and form a Cup as the Final Pictograph.
The K Pictograph is thought of to be an Open Palm of a Man or Plant.
I believe it to be a Lotus.
Also Colonel Churchward mentions the King of MU to be R-M which is the Combined Pictographs 5 and 18 which create the Pictograph of a Person’s Head with a Pointed Headband (Thorny Crown).

What the Cosmogonic Diagram or the Cypher shows is the Grouping of the Pictographs as a Center with 6 Surrounding Symbols and 12 Symbols Surrounding them.
What I call the Tassels at the bottom , show the 4 remaining Symbols that should be Divided into 2.
A Positive and a Negative Version of each for a total of 8.
Pictograph 7 Watch or Blinded
Pictograph 16 Speech or Silence
Pictograph 13 Reveal or Secret
Pictograph 10 Mountain or Pit
These are possible translations and there is the possibility for many others as there is also a Vowel System that is part of the Ancient Language also.

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WNYC and the Land of Mu

WNYC History Notes Vol. 3, Issue 1
Friday, January 13, 2012 – 11:00 AM
By Andy Lanset: Director of Archives

Colonel James Churchward (1851-1936)
(Photo courtesy of Jack Churchward)

Archives and Preservation
Established in the year 2000, the WNYC Archives are the station’s physical link to its rich and storied past. More

Between 1924 and 1925, world traveler, inventor, geologist, archeologist, metalurgical chemist and researcher James Churchward delivered more than two dozen lectures over WNYC. A former colonel in the British Army, Churchward gave talks based on decades of research that focused on what he called, ‘the motherland of man,’ the lost continent of Mu.

According to Churchward, some 25,000 years before the common era Mu had been a Pacific Ocean rival to Atlantis, with its northern reach just beyond Hawaii and southern boundary between Easter Island and Fiji. Before its destruction from a volcanic explosion, Mu was home to as many as 64,000,000 people whose culture and inventions, he argued, far surpassed those of the modern era. [1]

Churchward began his quest to prove the existence of Mu in 1868 as a young English officer on famine relief duty in India. There, he befriended a high priest at a temple school monastery who revealed to him ancient tablets written in Naacal, a language known only to a dwindling few. The priest reportedly taught Churchward how to read this language and the tablets which described the lost continent of Mu. So began Churchward’s lifelong project to corroborate the tablets.

In his WNYC talks Churchward discussed many of his discoveries and findings, conclusions he detailed in The Lost Continent of Mu: Motherland of Man, published in 1926. This work was followed by The Children of Mu, The Sacred Symbols of Mu, and two volumes on The Cosmic Forces of Mu.
Eighty-seven years ago today, Churchward spoke for 15 minutes about Atlantis, Egypt and Greece.

Brotherhood of Life ©2011

The above two pages are from Churchward’s original WNYC broadcast scripts and have been reproduced courtesy of the Las Vegas-based publisher Brotherhood of Life, which intends to publish the whole set of 251 pages. These also include Churchward’s diagrams, paintings and colored maps like the one featured below.

Brotherhood of Life ©2011

The Brooklyn Daily Eagle’s radio columnist commented on Churchward’s WNYC talks on several occasions. Regarding the May Day, 1925 broadcast, he poked some fun at the colonel:

“Professor Churchward dealt in no topics of today after the manner of Will Rogers. Everything Mu-ish happened over 16,000 years ago, and we just had to believe all he said about those dear old days. Nothing was said about the Mu cows, or any of the other homely things of life in the Land of Mu, but as a hylogriphical [sic] tale it was a first-rater. We learned about cosmic eggs from which the ancients believed life came. We used to know some barnstorming actors that had good reason to share that notion.”[2]

Other Mu related broadcasts included, “Mu and Her Ancient Past” and “Life on Mu.” Churchward’s WNYC talks also touched on the Himalayas, the origins of savagery, the sun, pygmy hunting in Central America, and what he called “the great magnetic cataclysm.”

Churchward’s writings have been a source of material and inspiration for many others, including the work of H.P. Lovecraft and the British-based electronic music record label Planet Mu.[3] Jack Churchward, the great grandson of James Churchward, maintains a detailed website aimed at promoting a more complete understanding of James Churchward’s writings and theories.

Thanks to Richard Buhler and Jack Churchward for their assistance with this piece.

Brotherhood of Life ©2011

[1] “Col. Churchward, Author, Dies at 86,” The New York Times, January 5, 1936, pg. N10.

[2] “On the Radio Last Night.” The Brooklyn Daily Eagle, May 2, 1925, pg.11.

[3] James Churchward, Wikipedia

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Another Darwin Rise Page

Seamound Density in the Pacific

After I had made the main article last time, I found another illustration showing concentrations of seamounts, underwater montains which are thought by some to indicate sunken land areas. This is really one of Menard’s illustrations done over but I thought it was reproducing. It is from a standard reference book on Oceanography and Oceanic Geology and the copy I found was opn a website discussing the Mid-Ocean ridges.

Best Wishes, Dale D.

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Lost Mu’s Geological Counterpart, The Darwin Rise

There is a specific Geological structure recognised by science which corresponds to the continent of Mu as stated by James Churchward in his Lost Continent of Mu books and that structure is known as the Darwin Rise.Charles Darwin theorised from his observations on the growth of coral atolls in the Pacific that at one time the islands that the coral had grown on were once the tops of volcanoes at a higher elevation and that there had subsequently been a subsidence throughout the Pacific which made all of the volcanoes sink to a lower level, all the while the coral reefs continued to grow upward.

Oceanographer H. W. Menard wrote a seriers of articles about the geology, structure and age of the Darwin Rise in the 1960s to the 1980s. Notable among these were the articles:

Menard, H. W., Marine Geology of the Pacific, McGraw-Hill, New York,1964.
Menard, H. W., Darwin reprise, J. Geophys. Res., 89, 9960-9968, 1984

Most of the following charts and tables are Menards and have to do with the strata at the ocean floor, deposition and age of the deposition that deep-sea dredgings implied.

The Colour globe is from DISCOVER Magazine and shows anomalous gravity readings around the world, including suspicious readings in both the Atlantic and the Pacific which could be interpreted as indicating submerged lad areas. The readings in the Atlantic are much stronger than in the Pacific.

The colour map shows the current condition of the floor of the Pacific.

This sequence of geological maps shows the hypothetical building and collapse of the Darwin Rise, out to the far left of each map and separate from the regular Continental drift. Some theorise that the Darwin Rise arose on the opposite side of the Earth to Pangaea as a counterbalance and it was sunk during the process of continental drift itself. There is also controversy about how high it ever got and consequently how much of it was ever possibly above water level. Menard calls it “An incipient continent” and theorises that it arose in the early Cretaceous and sank in the Late Cretaceous (the last part of the Age of Dinosaurs) Hence Alley Oop would have had it right to be on “Moo” in the Age of Dinosaurs-except for the fact that there werre not supposed to be any humans around at that time. These continental drift maps by Scotese show the remnants of the Darwin Rise (the subsequent Superswell) tho have been around in the early part of the Age of Mammals. It is important to the theory that most of the islands have been actual islands during the later Age of Mammals, so that the coral reefs could grow up on them. Which very much implies that the largest part of the Pacific has been in a condition mostly resembling today for the last several tens of millions of years.

Incidentally the Theosophists placed their “Lemuria” during the Age of Dinosaurs and only quoted relatively recent dates for the “Lemurians” because they adopted a vastly speeded-up Geological colum with a correspondingly short Age of Mammals. Which is why they used to malke movies saying that the Dinosaurs lived in “One Million BC”

The last map shown is a map from M. Dickins, “What is Pangaea?”, in: A.F. Embry, B. Beauchamp and D.G. Glass, Pangea: Globalenvironments and resources, Canadian Society of Petroleum Geologists, Memoir 17, 1994, pp. 67-80; D.R. Choi, Geology of the southeast Pacific, parts 1-3, New Concepts in Global Tectonics Newsletter, no. 7, pp. 11-15; no. 8, pp. 8-13; no. 9, pp. 12-14, 1998. It shows areas near the Pacific which show signs of having been above sealevel at some time in the past without saying how recently that might have been.

Best Wishes, Dale D.

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Churchward’s Geological Observations in Siberia

This information is from an older posting at my Yahoo group, Kon-Tiki and Mu, but it is of especial interest to James Churchward readers and critics. James Churchward had  stated that the Uighir Empire once existed in Central Asia and was overwhelmed about 16000 BC by waves up from the south: he said that when he was in Siberia he saw debris left by the waves, and that the debris had been laid down in water but not by ice (Glaciers)

It just so happens that much of the information actually checks out, but not oficially because of the reasons Churchward stated. 16000 BC or 18000 years ago was about the time of the Glacial Maximum and large mountain glaciers lay in the South of Siberia. It just so happens the highlands of Siberia are mostly in the South and the land slopes mostly toward the Arctic ocean from there. So at the end of the Glacial Maximum, large quantities of meltwater came from out of the South of Siberia as the mountain glaciers meletd way: Graham Hancock’s book Underworld (2002) notes a sudden influx of glacial meltwater at about 16000 to 14000 years ago as the first of three “Global Superfloods”, each of the three being derived from the melting of the continental glaciers, in stages.

Churchward’s version says that there were no high mountains of Central Asia at the time and the waves washed full across the breadth of Asia. According to the Geologists, the mountains were already there and in fact that is where the floodwaters originated. Hoever, at least it can be said that Churchward turned out to be approximately correct as to the nature of the deposits in Siberia, the direction that the waves were coming from and the fact that there was no ice involved directly in it, and the approximate date of the deposit. Any one of these observations would be noteworthy on its own.

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An Alternate View on the Relationship Between Christian and Pagan Writings

Christianity and pre-Christian religions often appear to have many things in common. As a result, many today see these similarities and claim that Christianity borrowed, or stole, teachings from these earlier religions.

The facts, however, demonstrate that the opposite is more likely true.

Mithras, for example, had no ancient sacred writings. The earliest known example is a single liturgy from the fourth century AD, in the late Roman phase.

All else that we know about Mithras has come down through the Middle Ages via Catholic commentators, chronologists, and copyists.

Unfortunately, these Catholic writers had a predilection for altering other religious writings to conform to Christianity; and most of what we know about ancient religions is found in very late manuscripts after many times being copied and altered.

A clear example involves the religious histories by Egyptian (Manetho) and Babylonian (Berossos). We have no copies, or even fragments, of their writings. What we have has come down to us only as quotes by Jewish and Catholic chronologists (Josephus, Eusebius, Syncellus, etc.) in a form modified to support Bible chronology. For example, a manuscript of Syncellus modifies the Egyptian chronology to support the Greek Bible’s dates for the deluge and Fallen angels of Genesis.

To support the claims the chronologies are interpreted to place the founding of Egypt and Babylon within six months of each other; and during the life of the Biblical Enoch, supposedly when the angels fell. This is accomplished by “interpreting” Egyptian “years” and the Babylonian Saros as variable.

Another example involves the ancient Greek mystery religions. Aside from one small fragment, the oldest copies we have of the Homeric Hymn to Demeter date from the fourteenth century. Moreover, Clement of Alexandria is our key source for details about the cults of Eleusis, Aphrodite, Cybele, the Corybantic, and the Sabazian mystery cults. Again for Clement we have copies of copies of copies, etc.

Therefore, it is most likely that, over many centuries, these Christian scribes conformed other religions to Christianity. Therefore, what we now “know” about those religions has been extensively corrupted.

So while these ancient religions themselves did in fact predate Christianity, the documentary “evidence” cited for those religions is found in manuscripts which are much later than the Christian writings, and have been corrupted by conformity.

It is therefore very likely that Christianity did not adopt beliefs from these earlier religions. Rather the beliefs of these other religions were adapted to conform to the Christian Bible.

What we have today is most likely the result of centuries of changes, or corrections, by Catholic commentators, chronologists, and copyists.

We can also need to factor in common errors, such as parablipsis arising from homoeoarcton or homoeoteleuton.

These factors, therefore, need to be taken into account when researching ancient religions such as those related to Eleusis, Mithras, Magna Mater, Isis, Osiris Sarapis, etc.

So where does this leave us?

Unfortunately, it leaves us with the fact that the true nature of these pre-Christian religions have probably been completely corrupted and hopelessly lost.

J. Warren Wells – 2 April 2011

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Demeter as true mother

The concept is very simple and basic in the Greek.

The particle DE (Delta Eta) in Greek is an intensifier. Liddell & Scott (Middle Liddell) says it “gives greater exactness to the word” It gives the examples “in truth”, “In deed”, “surely” and “really” 

Therefore De intensifies Meter “Mother” and gives us “in truth  Mother”, “Surely Mother”, etc.

Regards, Joseph

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Mu and Demeter

The earliest attestation of Demeter is “Da-ma-te” in Linear-b (Google that for details).

 As for a “consensus” of scholar.” Virtually all translators of the Hymn to Demeter blatantly mistranslate the Greek “orgia” (orgies) as “Mysteries.” See for example line 476 in the Hymn to Demeter.


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